About the Podcast

Nothing Moves Without Us is a podcast focused on Black entertainment from the past 30+ years. Biweekly, your hosts Clifford and Tatiana will discuss shows, movies, and music that have been pivotal to the Black experience.

Your Hosts

Clifford genece

Clifford lives to inspire and be inspired. A native of Brooklyn, NY, he realized the biggest city in the world was too small for him and has been on a journey to find more of what the life experience offers.

His company, Galt's Conditioning was founded on understanding what influences our lives in order to define and shape our life purpose. Under Galt's Conditioning is The Black Excellence Shop which features a perpetual desk calendar and journal, celebrating the rich diverse history of the global Black experience.

Clifford is a multi-podcast host, self-published author, photographer, and enjoys running, hiking, and finding ways to evolve the life experience for people who face the limiting challenges of life.


Tatiana levine

Tatiana “Tati” Levine is a Harlem native, currently residing in the Bronx.

A self proclaimed dabbler, she enjoys photography, officiating weddings, traveling, and any and all botanical gardens.

A self taught photographer, Tati launched her website tatianafoto.me to share her work with her friends and family, but now she aims to share her work with the world.

Tati is new to the podcasting game, but is not new to having a lot to say (ask anyone). She hopes to one day be able to show the world her perspective whether it be through words, pictures, or laughs.